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For centuries thinkers have been trying to reconcile religion and science. At first the imperative was to make a space for science in a dominant religious understanding; today it is to make space for religion amid a dominant scientific understanding (in the West, at any rate).

This effort is not confined to theists. Atheist physicist Alan Lightman had an interesting interchange with atheist philosopher Daniel Dennett in Salon magazine last month. Dennett, who will be at the atheist convention in Melbourne next year, is one of the so-called four horsemen of the anti-apocalypse and has an ideological commitment far beyond Lightman's.

Lightman’s thesis is here, Dennett’s reply is here, and Lightman’s response to that is here. Lightman's first piece is quite long. So, by blog standards, is this thread.

It is axiomatic among many philosophers that the foundations of our various worldviews, the first principles, have to be assumed for the project of our reasoned lives to operate, and these principles are often unprovable. For theists, this tends to be the existence of God (that’s not to say there are no reasons for belief, which I could not concede, but that religious commitment does not depend purely on reasons). For atheists, the first principle tends to be a commitment to reason or to science.

(Obviously this is a gross over-simplification – the difference in the practical lives of believers and non-believers is not as vast as some on either side like to suggest.)

Where Lightman really impressed me was his acknowledgement that science, as a philosophical commitment rather than the specific practice of it, also requires a leap of faith. He talks of the "Central Doctrine of science": "all properties and events in the physical universe are governed by laws, and those laws are true at every time and place in the universe. Although scientists do not talk explicitly about this doctrine, and my doctoral thesis advisor never mentioned it once to his graduate students, the Central Doctrine is the invisible oxygen that scientists breathe."

Thus, the doctrine goes, though we do not know all the fundamental laws now, and what we do know may change (as Einstein’s law of gravity replaced Newton’s), they exist and are in principle discoverable by humans. But of course, as Lightman admits, this cannot be proved. It is, as I said, a leap of faith.

Now, more committed atheists may resent that terminology, but that doesn’t alter its truth. And Dennett upbraids Lightman for letting religion off the hook too easily, but he doesn’t tackle this point. (He spends most time defending fellow horseman Richard Dawkins from claims that I don’t think Lightman makes, e.g. that Dawkins and other atheists are too philistine to appreciate the art and music religion has engendered. I suspect that Dennett is so used to a vigorously adversarial stance he finds it hard to adopt any other posture.)

In his opening paragraphs Lightman talks about a group of scientists, actors and playwrights who meet monthly at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to talk about science and art. “What continues to astonish me is the frequency with which religion slips into the room, unbidden but persistent. One member of our group, playwright and director Alan Brody, offers this explanation: ‘Theatre has always been about religion. I am talking about the beliefs that we live by. And science is the religion of the 21st century’."

Naturally I like Lightman because he endorses the claim I have made very often on this blog: that though science is a brilliantly successful and vital method of gaining knowledge and helping us shape and live in our world, it is still one discourse among many and there are questions beyond its ken.

He agrees with scientists such as Francis Collins and Ian Hutchinson, who are Christians, that science is not the only avenue to knowledge, there are interesting questions beyond the reach of test tubes and equations. “Obviously vast territories of the arts concern inner experiences that cannot be analysed by science. The humanities, such as history and philosophy, raise questions that do not have definite or unanimously accepted answers.

“I believe there are things we take on faith, without physical proof and even sometimes without any methodology for proof … We cannot prove the meaning of our life, or whether life has any meaning at all.” We can gather evidence and arguments but no system of analysis remotely similar to the way a physicist decides how many seconds it will take a foot-long pendulum to make a complete swing.

He also acknowledges that the role of science, as another philosopher of science put it, is to measure the marks that matter makes on matter. Science is always focused, where philosophy or religion may not be. Lightman says: “At any moment in time, every scientist is working on, or attempting to work on, a well-posed problem, a question with a definite answer. We scientists are taught from an early stage of our apprenticeship not to waste time on questions that do not have clear and definite answers. But artists and humanists often don’t care what the answer is because definite answers don’t exist to all interesting and important questions.”

He also acknowledges that science, like religion, has been used for good and ill. “It is how they are used by human beings, by us, that matters.”

Lightman eventually offers a theory of reconciliation whereby religion and science can co-exist if the religion involves a non-interventionist deity who does not enter the natural realms that are the subject of science. I haven't room to explore that now.

As I have argued before, humans have to see their lives in some sort of narrative, and it is this that provides shape and meaning, whether acknowledged or not. In the absence of a theistic narrative, science has filled the hole for many people.

Obviously I am using religion – which is notoriously difficult to define – in its broadest sense. Scholar Jonathan Z. Smith observes: “The moral … is not that religion cannot be defined, but that it can be defined, with greater or lesser success, more than 50 ways.”

So another scholar, Bruce Lincoln, says that, rather than a singular thing or essence, religion is better understood as a form of discourse that makes a claim to a particular kind of authority. What makes a discourse religious is when it claims an authority that is believed “to transcend the human, temporary and contingent, and claims for itself a similarly transcendent status”. Without anyone necessarily intending that to happen, I suggest that for many a belief in science has slipped into that category.

Over to you.

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Science could also be regarded as being a tool of religion. As both sides of the argument involve strongly held beliefs, however, it would be more prudent to actually focus on enjoying the offerings of life and making the most of the time we have available. A leap of faith should not preclude faith in one's personal judgment and acceptance of what makes each individual happy.
Posted by Marie Jacqueline Lee, 14/11/2011 6:25:15 PM
" though science is a brilliantly successful and vital method of gaining knowledge and helping us shape and live in our world, it is still one discourse among many "

And yet it provides more answers than questions unlike religion.

Posted by Blackfulla, 15/11/2011 9:14:49 AM
Personally, I find mythology and religions much more interesting and romantic than science. I don't care who or what is right, probably nobody and nothing is, including science.

The existence or nonexistence of "God" to me is irrelevant: what IS important is what the ramifications of the existence or nonexistence of "God" are or aren't.

Religions and mythologies provide a mystery and creative intuity that (I feel) is absent from science, with its insistence on proof.

Proof that is blindly accepted by many just as unquestioningly as any religion.

But people can believe whatever they like

Posted by zakhar, 15/11/2011 10:15:09 PM
I will take Christianity above religion any day or night. At least with Christianty you get Love, Joy, Peace and Hope, all you get with religion is bullying.
Posted by jimbob, 16/11/2011 6:21:06 AM
Infinite love is the only reality, all the rest is illusion
Posted by concerned, 16/11/2011 11:02:43 AM
@jimbob Chritianity is a type of religion mate. What I can't get is people link religion and science together. They have nothing to do with each other. Religion is a belief in "god" and the belief of his/her teachings in the way you live your life. Science is about the physical understanding of the universe and how it works. Yes there are certain sects of religion that believe far out possibilities like the earth was created in 7 days etc. 99% of people don't believe that anymore, if you still believe that then accordingly the earth is flat as science doesn't teach you to love thy neighbour.
Posted by Greg, 16/11/2011 12:39:25 PM
Post-modernism at its very worst.:

"though science is a brilliantly successful and vital method of gaining knowledge and helping us shape and live in our world, it is still one discourse among many and there are questions beyond its ken"

Name one of the alternate many that can accurately measure the tritium concentrations in seawater, or image a pea sized tumour in the amygdala.

The tendency to religiosity and remaining true to the scientific method is not without precedent. Much good science has come from such sources provided there is no bleed through. Snakes do not talk.

Posted by Michael, 16/11/2011 7:47:19 PM
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Science is not religion. Religion requires belief.

Belief is the acceptance of X as the explanation for Y, despite contradictory or absent evidence.

Science is the observation and quantification of X, and the acceptance of Y as the best possible explanation for X, based on the available data, subject to revision should new data become available.

Science operates in a vacuum. Once you admit even the slightest amount of faith based reasoning to the chamber, all bets are off, and you have people trying to have the teaching of evolution removed from schools.

Posted by Michael, 16/11/2011 8:00:36 PM
Science doesn't operate in a vacuum because scientific observations involve analyses of variables, from all areas of life, based on what is being observed, that attempt to explain different results and if/why the research was positively or negatively skewed. Even scientific research can be subjective and, when it doesn't provide conclusive evidence, may require a leap of faith. Science is all around us, not confined to an exclusive chamber reserved for the pleasure of the scientific elite. Science and religion merely operate as two different ways of interpreting the universe.
Posted by Marie Jacqueline Lee, 17/11/2011 5:47:51 PM
Marie Jacqueline Lee, allow me to clarify.

Once you include pre-scientific notions into the equation, like many young earth creationist are prone to do (for example), you no longer have science.

There is no room in science for dogma. Involve that and it isn't even bad science.

The "analysis of variables", provided the variables are also products of empirical science, is perfectly reasonable.

The vacuum analogy still stands. All that is there (in the vacuum) is science.

Science, when it doesn't have an answer, will say "we don't have an answer."

Posted by Michael, 20/11/2011 4:22:19 PM
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